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And I was doing the magic - the John Lennon thing that happened in the first issue, I got John Lennon's head and I wrote this song and it was channelling John Lennon. We recorded it and everyone was like "It's a Lennon song!" Then I did this stuff with scorpion magic, that was voodoo stuff, that was part of being ill as well, just getting over these voodoo entities that were the scariest shit I've ever seen in my life, real bad, bad news. But I put it onto King Mob. They told me I had to have a scorpion tattoo at the base of my spine, so I gave it to him - there's no way I'm gonna obey these giant scorpions tellin' me to put a tattoo on! And slowly I started really thinking about what I was setting in motion, how I was getting involved in the situation. Suddenly I was sick and I thought, let's see if I can make this work in a different way. So in series two King Mob's really healthy, he's diving off the diving board and he's shaggin' Ragged Robin. After the whole illness thing I'd lost my girlfriend and everything just collapsed, and I was in the abyss.   So I gave him a good time and the next thing I know I'm in America, goin' out with a girl with green eyes and red hair, exactly like Ragged Robin. It worked! Now, if I put people in the comic, I meet them a couple of months later. Anyone I want to meet, I put them in the comic and I meet them! So like, Helga, in the latest one, I made this crazy girl up she makes films and she's full of mad shit, I meet the girl! She makes the films, I was in a film she made recently.

John Lennon Magic

From The Invisibles #1. Art by Steve Yeowell.

That reminds me of a couple of stories I've heard - Alan Moore claims he once saw his character John Constantine in a coffee shop, and Neil Gaiman met a demon character from one of his stories.

I think it does happen. That's my area of interest, the crossover between fiction and reality. The Invisibles is about breakin' down the walls until everyone's living in the world they want because fiction and reality become interchangeable. The Invisibles   magic works for me, but if it works on a wider scale, very soon we're gonna see that happening more and more.

So do you think people are picking that message up when they read the comic?

Yeah, of course they are. Look at every movie they're making! As I've said, The Matrix is The Invisibles. Every movie that's coming out at the moment is about being trapped in a projected reality that isn't real, this Gnostic idea. Think of The Truman Show, Pleasantville, Dark City, all these things are all about waking up to the true reality, and it's getting into the culture and morphin' and mutatin' it. As I said in the last Invisibles, the world's gettin' the way I wanted it to be when I started the series. The world I used to live in wasn't very colourful, it's not that long ago - ninety-five, and suddenly everything's colourful, burgeoning out in every direction, like a fractal, weirder and weirder.

Howoptimistic are you about the whole Terrence McKenna 2012 thing?

Well, we'll see what happens. I think it's a great theory, I think information is getting faster and novelty is increasing, so far it's working. It's so wild. Well, he was right. I looked at the time-wave chart and in 96/97 there's the biggest drop towards zero novelty that we're gonna have until we hit it in 2012. In 96/97 we had Dolly the sheep, we had reports of teleporting photons, we've got all this new technology...

Levitating frogs...

Exactly. I haven't heard anything about this stuff since, but it's out there and it's getting worked on.

You know what's weird? The green glowing mice that they're talking about now were reported in the Fortean Times eighteen months ago, and it's only now making news headlines. You've gotta wonder what they've been doing in that time, between the FT writing about it and deciding that it's okay for people to know about it.

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